Turf Wars Aside, How Do NPs and MDs Really Differ?

By Christine Moffa, MS, RN, AJN clinical editor

There’s been a lot of talk lately about turf wars between NP’s and physicians, especially when it comes to the much discussed U.S. shortage of primary care providers. Before going back to school and getting a master’s in nursing education, I batted around the idea of becoming a nurse practitioner. It seemed like the ideal next step for someone who was happy being a clinician but wanted to take on an advanced role.

However, there was something that didn’t sit right with me about becoming an NP—namely, my fear of public perception. I’m not sure most people know exactly what the role of an NP is and how it differs from that of a physician, particularly in primary care. I’ve seen patients call their primary care NP “doctor [insert first name here],” which to me illustrates the confusion.

When people ask me the difference, I myself have a hard time articulating it. How do I respond when someone says something like this: “if entry to medical school and residency is typically more competitive than for advanced degree nursing programs, and if physicians spend a longer time attending tougher programs, how do you justify their doing the same work as NPs?” (For instance, when I was in school we, along with the NP candidates, were only required to take two semesters of pathophysiology!)

Now, I’ve been to an NP as a patient, and I was happy with the care I received. She certainly […]

Nurses Doing Primary Care, Hospital-Acquired Infections, Questionable Celebrity Advice, and Tort Reform

With a looming shortage of primary care doctors, 28 states are considering expanding the authority of nurse practitioners. These nurses with advanced degrees want the right to practice without a doctor’s watchful eye and to prescribe narcotics. And if they hold a doctorate, they want to be called “Doctor.”

That’s the start of an MSNBC story called “Doc Deficit? Nurses Role May Grow in 28 States.” Much of the article is about nurse practitioners (NPs)–and the different ways they are (or are not) allowed to practice in different states, as well as the ongoing efforts of physician groups to limit their practice (even as the health care overhaul increases the demand for primary care physicians and invests in nurse-managed clinics). We’ve posted on scope of practice issues here more than once—what’s your take as nurses, or patients?

HAIs persist. Also today, as described from a number of perspectives in a collection of articles on Kaiser Health News, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) released a report stating that the rate of hospital-acquired infections did not improve in 2009, despite ongoing attention to this issue in studies, IHI initiatives, nursing journals, and nearly everywhere else. What gives?

Does getting sick make you an expert? Elsewhere, at Covering Health (the blog of the Association of Health Care Journalists), Andrew Van Dam is critical of tennis star Martina Navratilova’s public advocacy for yearly mammograms for women over 40.

In February, Martina […]

Advanced Practice Nurses: Pushed Forward by Health Reform Advocates, Pushed Back by Physicians over Turf – Enough Already!

By Shawn Kennedy, MA, RN, AJN editor-in-chief

As we’ve noted in past posts on this blog and in AJN editorials in August 2006 and August 2008, organized medicine does not want to acknowledge that nurses can practice independently.  And now the turf war between advanced practice nurses (APRNs, which include nurse practitioners, nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives and clinical nurse specialists) and physicians is heating up.

In California, physicians are suing the state for allowing nurse anesthetists to practice without supervision, using patient safety as a reason. In Kentucky, physicians are opposing legislation to expand the scope of practice for NPs—at issue is whether NPs should need a signed collaborative arrangement with a physician (even though the physician does not supervise the NP). According to an article by a Louisville, Kentucky, newspaper, the Courier-Journal, the physicians charge high fees for their signature or demand a percentage of the practice.  The bill, though, passed the state House committee on March 4, with several members questioning the ethics of physicians’ requiring fees.

Nurses have been and continue to fight for the right to practice, and during this period where the government is seeking solutions to health reform, this is a battle that shouldn’t have to happen—a view shared by Stephen Ferrara, NP, at A Nurse Practitioner’s Place (“I have tried to refrain from taking the bait from some recent negative opinions regarding nurse practitioner delivered care”). […]

Nurse Practitioners and Health Care Reform: “A Solution in Plain Sight” say Former HHS Secretary Donna Shalala and PA Governor Ed Rendell

“Lion’s Gate Bridge Sunrise,” by thelastminute, via Flickr.

The American Academy of Nursing just held a news briefing on nurse-managed care and health centers as solutions for our ailing health care system. Former Health and Human Services (HHS) secretary and now president of University of Miami, Donna Shalala; Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell; Tine Hansen, CEO of the National Consortium of Nursing Centers and executive director of the Convenient Care Association; and Susan Sherman, president of the Independence Foundation, sent a coherent message: nurse practitioners (NPs) have developed an infrastructure of health centers and convenient care clinics (such as MinuteClinics) that can help our nation reform a health care delivery system that is currently unable to meet the primary health care needs of its people. […]

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